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John Phillips sworn says - I live at Lanvrechra -

I was on Monday last taken away from my house by a party against

my will about eight o'Clock - I was brought by that party along the

Road until we came to Malpass - Jones the Watchmaker of Pontypool

was amongst that party - I know him very well - Jones said to the

party, wont he go, and the witness said 'no' I wont - then Jones said to

the party bring him along and I went - we proceeded until we came

to Prisoner Aust's house - Jones the Watchmaker went into the prisoners

house and came out with the Prisoner - the Prisoner had then a great
Coat on and was differently dressed to what he has on - I did not see

him at any time with any Gun, - when they came opposite Malpass

house I saw Jones and Aust talking together, they were quite close

together face to face - it was when the Coachman and Gardener were
taken off when the Prisoner and Jones were together face to face -

I saw Jones loading a pistol - I did not see the prisoner then -

deliver any thing to Jones - I did not see more than one Pistol -

I saw that pistol plain enough - we then proceeded together until we

got to the Malpass Turnpike Gate - Aust and Jones were sometimes

together and sometimes separated - When we got to the Marshes Turnpike

Gate Jones and Aust ordered us to turn up the Lane - we did so - we

went up Penylan and met a Collier on the road - a great many -

asked the Collier where he had been, he said if you had been where
I have been you would have enough of it - Jones wanted the Collier

to return and the Collier said 'no I have had enough of it" - Mr Jones

then said "we are done now" - he said so to all of us - we stopped there

with him about half an hour - I left them and saw no more of Aust

or Jones - I saw ten or a dozen Guns amongst the mob, some had

hatchets that would cut two or three ways others had pikes and Billhooks

and long Poles - all of them had Clubs almost - I saw Aust by the

Turnpike side and side by Mr Jones

The mark of

John Phillips