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at Pontymister that night after 12 oClock - I work for the

Blaina & Cwm Celyn Compy - I went to my work &

saw a great many men on the floors - they said I must go

along with them - they had swords Guns & pikes along

with them - they said I must go along with them or they

would kill me - I went with them - I was then working

at Pontymister - they made me call people by their names

out of their houses - I know Isaac Phillips he is

the Prisoner - I have known him ever since we was

Children - we was in School together - I know Charles

Harris' house at Pontymister - I saw the Prisoner go into

Harris' house I saw some one go after him into the

House - it was then about 12 o'Clock - he had nothing

with him going into the House - He brought a Butcher's

cleaver with him out of the House - there was a little

Girl about 9 years old in the House nursing a child about

2 months old - The mother had gone out to look for the

father - the child was crying - I said to the Prisoner

Isaac leave it there and he said damn your eyes if

you say much I will split you with it - he took the

cleaver away - I saw him next morning between

6 & 9 o'Clock in Sir Charles Morgan's Park - there

were hundreds and thousands of people there with him

they were armed with pikes & Swords - they halted in the

Park - the Prisoner had then a Sword which was took from

our forges - they came to our forges about 1/2 past 11 or 12

o'Clock - there was a Sword in George Grippers house which

is about 30 yards from Harris' - I did not see the Prisoner

take the sword from George Grippers House - but I saw ano-r

man take it - I know the Sword - I had knowed it a twelve

Month - I had been in the house almost every day for

something or other - the Sword was about 2 1/2 feet in length

- there was a piece of brass that came to the back of the

hand - That was the Sword I saw in the Prisoner's hand

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