Interviewer Sian Green: We talked briefly just now about DPJ and what they've sort of done for you and do for the community. Would you like to talk a little bit more about that?
CHT: Yes, it's a very strange thing to actually admit, and it's been very hard to admit. But DPJ have given me a lot of help. Getting things in proportion it things have been very difficult with the onset, obviously of Brexit and the effect that had and COVID and the effect that had on our developing the new side of the business. So as one yeah finds it hard to admit, yeah, I must accept the DPJ have done a lot to help us and to help me get things in the right perspective.