Edith Stephenson recalls working in the office at Tonfanau camp, and her daughter Debbie Mudge, remembers interacting with some of the families staying there. They empathise with how difficult a transition it must have been for the Ugandan Asians. Edith recalls the camp being run ‘efficiently’. They discuss visiting a particular family in the camp; being in ‘awe’ of the different food and clothing is discussed; and how the episode may have affected their future lives and careers. Debbie still thinks about what happened to the friends she made. Parallels are drawn to the Ukrainian refugee crisis.